But these words already existed and weren't redefined or coined. Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. Freddie <~~~ like Farmer’s Insurance . By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. Below are portions of testimonials about an aiming system from one particular poster. Anyone who's watched me, talked to me on these boards, etc. . instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. ALL of Hal Houle's systems had the exact same foundation. "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction. It's this period of time that Jimmy Moore incorporated his pivot aiming technique. In 2002 I got a phone call from Bob Johnson, one of my Denver, Colorado pool buddies. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. I was at fast eddies practicing. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. Instruction & Ask the pros. No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. Most errors in a stroke originate in the backstroke, and get amplified on the forward stroke. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. . Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept of. Jul 25, 2005. It's like DNA, do what comes. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. . Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. Even then, the adjustment is minimal. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool. . The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. " Meeting Hal made me addicted to information. Connie and I are beyond pleased! I left it all on the table: 38. Pool lost a pioneer. I don't have the numbers anymore, as they were in a notebook I can. I found a post from 2009 from someone who said Hal Houle told them the guy was an awesome player from out of Cochrans, another was the Ripleys Believe it or not post in one of Bob Byrnes books about the 180 ball run. None of them were related to math and geometry. Hal was not a great teacher, and did not really understand how or why most of the systems worked. What they have figured out works and for some reason that bothers you. I haven't seen any testimonials lately and I got to wondering how Stan's facebook page (aka the impenetrable fortress of solitude) was doing. Maybe it was already a given between us and we worked on other things. Sep 17, 2014 #11The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. JB Cases Silver Member. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Began instructing pool in 1945. 82 m (5 ft 11 + 1 ⁄ 2 in) Weight: 72 kg (159 lb; 11 st 5 lb) Team information; Current team:. . By: Search Advanced search…In your best interpretation of a professional pool player or professional instructor, PLEASE DEFINE FEEL IN AIMING. JoeyInCali Maker of. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. The fact is that all systems which work will end up with the player in the SAME place which is lined up correctly. I decided last winter to turn myself into an Open caliber. S. By: Search Advanced search…We all need to practice our aiming as much as possible - that's how we get good at it. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email inviting me His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. Hal Houle's Aiming Cyrus Jackson 6 videos 165 views Last updated on Jan 28, 2022 Play all Shuffle 1 2:02 1 Position, 10 Shots Sean Higgins • 5. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Christopher lives on the same street as the following people: Roshelly Aviles · Susan M Heffelfinger · Anne E Vonneida · Hal Houle · Julia B Houle · Andrea J Partridge · David A Partridge · K Partridge · Sonia S Houle · Paula M Santos · Dana M Hackman · Trevor L Hackman · Scott Morgan · Mark E Barowski · Ann M Polukis · Michele M. Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. and let's go to press. #2. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. . A. . I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. Stan took it beyond the pivot by making it a true visual system which is Pro1. For every shot that there is an angle, there is throw on the object ball. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. and I get all da rolls. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. I am not even sure I use an aiming system, and not even sure what to look for it I am. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. B. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. You can go past center to get to outside . Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. My schedule for lessons is resuming as usual and all courses will reflect the newly redefined CTE/PRO ONE Aiming System. . Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. Aiming ConversationInstruction & Ask the pros. most of philipeno player are using Busty. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. . There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. pj chgo . this came about with lateral thinking - thinking far outside the box by hal houle and then stan shuffett. . Most of the people that have learned one or more of his systems do not give out much info, as he did/does not want them. . Think About It. good evening America. After watching multiple. Watched the World 10 Ball Championships2022. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. . . Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. it's kinda funny though. #1. . It was what got his mind thinking about what we see on pool balls and how CTE came to be. Search titles only. S. "CTE naturally aligns CB-OB relations as an overcut to. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. ) I will be more than happy. . As you now know, it's as simple as simple can be just like Shishkabob created by Hal Houle decades ago. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ? Hal was the only pool player in his family tree and the community here on AZB probably knows more about his pool life, adventures and accomplishments than they do, so Sunny asked if I would ask the members here to post their stories about Hal so they can be read at his funeral. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. Fez was also very good friends with Ralph Greenleaf who was also traveling the country with financially backed by. His gem being Center To Edge. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. A and C are the object ball quarters. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. In light of DCP's thread, I'm curious to what everyone thinks about what realistic goals a player who is serious about the game should set? And also a. . By: Search Advanced search…This is CTE video of the day #2 (48) - CTE CONTROVERSY Regulation 2 1/4" balls being shot into 2 1/2" pockets with reducers. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. Silver Member. I like Mike's method in actual games, makes things much easier, no thinking or guessing. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. I came into this multi-decade argument a few months ago after having learned basic CTE from Hal years ago. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. THE 3 LINES. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Silver Member. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. The idea behind the slip stroke is minimizing the length that your cue moves on the back stroke. Was great to hear his stories. My question is greenleaf won all his championships on a five by ten and mosconis. on RSB. E. . Started playing in 1934. If there were 10. systems that he currently endorses. cookie man AzB Silver Member. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. Efren: Oh, aim. Search titles only. You are referring to Hal Houles aiming system. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. pj chgo . Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. . that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. I have been playing pool lately with a older gentlemen, who has owned numerous pool rooms over the years in the San Jose area. Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. Hal helped so many people over the years never asking for a dime for his time. it can be the same for us as students. and Santos. The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. It also had absolutely nothing to do with CONTACT POINTS. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. I just. . "3-point" or "ball fractions" system. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. Then carried it over to here when this site was put. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. Hal Houle, during his research with aiming came to understand that the spheres we use for playing pool have 360 ticks on their circumferences. . This includes; caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double kiss banks. ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. Jan 16, 2020. . EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. i teach professional aiming systems. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. . Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Although, like San Jose Dick, the math is over my head and the physics lingo wrecks my game because I am thinking about when I play, I KNOW that there is merit to these systems and I will rejoice when the math and science guys figure it out and give people like Hal Houle and Ron V. By: Search Advanced search…Fellow CTE Enthusiasts, If I could get an answer to this one hurdle in my CTE learning journey I would be thrilled. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. I reside in Russia and. He also enjoyed keeping tabs on the various players and the members of AzBilliards. Hal Hale was an American basketball player and coach. This quote came from R. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. There are literally a zillion possible shots on a 5,000 square inch playing surface. . Mr. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. . Recently, I've started playing more and. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. Jul 25, 2005. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. ". Just for you, here is my answers to your queries. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. Stan Shuffett. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . “Innovator” might be a better descriptor for Hal. A. Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. cte doubters and all the other ways to make a ball WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE to. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. points") with either edge of the OB is the simplest way to think of it, but you can use several combinations of the fourths on both balls to. 5 years ago. Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. Instruction & Ask the pros. Hal teaches several systems. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. way I aim is I am alway shooting cue ball center but I am using the edge of the shaft. They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system. pj chgo . that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. The best person to ask is Hal himself. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. That's going to change. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. He drew in 3D the theory of rotating spheres. Apparently he had many aiming systems. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. He has posted his phone number -- the new one in Pennsylvania (I think). A. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. Search titles only. He has many system so make sure it is the wright one before you try to make a joke out of him. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. ” In TP A. pj chgo . By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. All of Hal's systems used the 3 line fractions. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. I also reviewed newspaper clippings from The New York Times, and I've drawn a. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. Instruction & Ask the pros. By: Search Advanced search…I'm grateful for you Stan and for Hal houle. It is a Small World After all. And who would have been the first to do it? YOU GUESSED IT IF YOU SAID PAT JOHNSON, who was the first in 1997 to go after Hal Houle on RSB and then other users. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. This is an EXACT aim. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Wondering if anyone has a story involving Hal Mix (RIP). by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. Guess the year. add another ball that can be used with. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. You can learn it by calling Hal. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. When you slip stroke, you are essentially stopping the cue during the back stroke, and quickly sliding your hand back further on the cue, grabbing the cue. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle showed this to me and it worked. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. " Hal's greatest joy was. Share your videos with friends, family, and the world Hal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. Silver Member. Search titles only. you have nothing to lose. Began instructing pool in 1945. Hal Houle I totally agree. A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. Aiming ConversationHal Houle (rhymes with pool) gave his knowledge free of charge and welcomed anyone to call him at any time to learn more about his aiming systems. Gold Member. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. Started playing in 1934. And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. Just sayin'. Then after I got home. They were posted in 2017 and remain today. bbb AzB Gold Member. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. . Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. . None of them were related to math and geometry. Search titles only. Stan's previous occupation was that of a teacher and he is a natural at teaching pool. The part that confuse me is why is there. (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. We located 1 sex offender matching the name "Paul Houle" in the US. If there is throw, then aiming exactly at the "contact point" where the ghost ball was should cause you to miss. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. Those who have learned CTE and become successful with it. Efren: Oh, aim. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foo…The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions. Just that simple!! thanks for the post friend!! mark . The 15 - 30 - and 45. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. i have a comment which will go something like this---many years ago there was a man named hal houle--houle as in pool he used to say! he posted on rsb to the dismay of most- an aiming system - boasting of 6 angles . "Hal" Harold G. Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. It can't get any more center pocket than that. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . Very minimal. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on. . . ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. . Anyways, CTE had been a point of discussion on RSB and Hal calls me one afternoon and starts off with, "Lou, this is Hal Houle. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. hal houle. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. Thank you thank you thank you. . If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. Joey: You know, an aiming system where you aim from the center of the cue ball to the edge of the object ball and then pivot and. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. Search titles only. Q.